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#1 2008-12-14 00:19:27

[NerVe]_VipeR_
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Registered: 2008-01-27
Posts: 81

RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

For those not aware, AgeSanctuary has taken over ES in patching TAD (seeing as ES is closing). However, our patches are unofficial, and this presents an issue for RTSL. Considering that the majority of the top skilled players will be using the fan patch from now on, what will be RTSL's position? Will the fan patch be mandatory for RTSL games?

If not, what sort of arrangement will have to be made if one clan wants to play on the fan patch, and the other clan does not?

For more information on the fan patch: http://agesanctuary.com/index.php?porta … pic=117569

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#2 2008-12-14 01:22:54

Pedestrian
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From: Saint Louis, MO, USA
Registered: 2007-11-10
Posts: 1603

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

The staff have been discussing this recently.  We'll try to post an official answer for you by tomorrow.

What I can do is try to give you an idea of what we've been talking about and the discussions we've been having:

We have problems with officially requiring the patch because 1) not everyone is going to hear about it, at least right away, and 2) people don't know how to use their computers and are going to have trouble installing it (even though I am sure you made it really easy to use).  We don't want to limit our league only to those people "in the know."

Of course, not allowing the patch would raise problems, as most of the competitive community will presumably be using it and won't want to switch back to the old version just for RTSL games.

Right now we're leaning towards a kind of compromise, where we would allow use of the fan patch if both clans agree, but not require it.  Hopefully by next season the patch will have caught on with most of the community and we can make it an official rule.

Then again, this is just my opinion, not that of the entire staff...like I said, wait for the official post wink

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#3 2008-12-14 01:54:15

[NerVe]_VipeR_
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Posts: 81

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Fair enough tongue

If use of the FP is optional in RTSL games, it should be a precondition that both clans must agree beforehand in their scheduling topic as to whether the FP will be used. That way each clan can account for which patch they will be playing on, and can make preparations to that effect (obviously double ranged infantry +zams won't cut it any more for the FP).

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#4 2008-12-14 17:43:35

IvIoIzT
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Registered: 2007-11-21
Posts: 213

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Make it required imo. The only reason my clan is returning to RTSL, or the game at all, is because of the FP.


Im socialy retardet?AHHHH LOOOL.You are just a rdm noob who enver can improve his skill and going to be allready fatter behind his computer.
You are max.  embarrasment  for our com. Thats the fact.
And you are to dumb to understand this.
I think you are a guy from the english underclass of your social system.

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#5 2008-12-14 18:26:09

RoM_Challe
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Registered: 2008-04-07
Posts: 74

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Well I can tell you without the FP this game is dead.

if you want to make effort to run a tour with 3 clans involved, be my guest. I think everyone earn something on the FP.


I hope you take the right decision. tho, your compromise was fair enough.

hf

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#6 2008-12-14 21:33:52

Biobob
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From: New Zealand
Registered: 2007-11-11
Posts: 938
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Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

imo definately use the fan patch, theres plenty of help out there for people to get the fan patch working


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#7 2008-12-14 21:51:33

IvIoIzT
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Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

I also feel like RTSL should be seen as leading the way. This is a great opportunity to get more people to use the patch.


Im socialy retardet?AHHHH LOOOL.You are just a rdm noob who enver can improve his skill and going to be allready fatter behind his computer.
You are max.  embarrasment  for our com. Thats the fact.
And you are to dumb to understand this.
I think you are a guy from the english underclass of your social system.

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#8 2008-12-14 22:35:24

blade55555
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Registered: 2008-12-09
Posts: 33

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

I have to agree with pretty mcuh everyone here lol.  I think most players in the RTSL will have the fan patch.

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#9 2008-12-15 14:16:42

Ourk
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Registered: 2007-11-22
Posts: 192

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

No FP, no game !

Else you'll see the same double RI/ 1 Zamb strat which is, together with the few other possibilities, getting quite old and was already annoying/extremely boring at first... so after half a year it's become really ugly...

Also, as someone else said I expected Rtsl to lead the community a bit, somehow. Respected and trusted events need to show the way...  :p

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#10 2008-12-15 16:11:27

Biobob
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From: New Zealand
Registered: 2007-11-11
Posts: 938
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Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Ourk wrote:

No FP, no game !

Else you'll see the same double RI/ 1 Zamb strat which is, together with the few other possibilities, getting quite old and was already annoying/extremely boring at first... so after half a year it's become really ugly...

yes, i agree, u can see my frustration in game 1 2 and 3 of rtsl finals big_smile


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#11 2008-12-15 16:45:32

Aztor
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Registered: 2007-12-31
Posts: 164

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Fan Patch is more ballanced. I think over 60% of the rts players already have FP, and in some weeks 70-80% will have it. FP were made to make the game more ballanced, and it has become so. Why not use it? And that's the start of the snowball. I guess many players are tired of ashi or zams etc.. Let the snowball roll, and let rts use FP.


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#12 2008-12-16 02:51:13

RoM_Challe
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Registered: 2008-04-07
Posts: 74

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Tired? I had thrown my cd's in garbage just because of them.

Well you see RTS-L Staff members, FP is kinda what the clans want.. I returned to playing 95% due to the patch. I think many members do so too, therefor I think it'd be a great boost to RTS-League to get extra members, and best of all, the members get to enjoy your great tournament EXTRA! Massor med EXTRA! EXTRA till alla!

long time ago i made a sucking up letter, please read it;P i hope the effort makes difference

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#13 2008-12-17 09:26:24

KoN_AndyGreen
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Registered: 2008-12-12
Posts: 38

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

We would like FP to be standard in the RTSL also. Like lots of the others have said, we returned to play mostly cause of the FP, and it really does make any tournament more fun to play wink

Last edited by KoN_AndyGreen (2008-12-17 09:26:55)


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#14 2008-12-19 03:28:45

[NerVe]_VipeR_
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Posts: 81

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Any update on this, RTSL staff?

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#15 2008-12-19 08:58:31

Biobob
RTSL Alumnus
From: New Zealand
Registered: 2007-11-11
Posts: 938
Website

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

[NerVe]_VipeR_ wrote:

Any update on this, RTSL staff?

you ARE an update

Last edited by Biobob (2008-12-19 08:58:42)


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#16 2008-12-20 08:29:38

Ourk
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Registered: 2007-11-22
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Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Let me be one too... ?

Guys, what's your final words on that ? SkWzZ clan won't participate if it's not with the fanpatch and I guess it's the same for some others, so we kind of have the right to know what's going on. Are you guys discussing about the case atm ?

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#17 2008-12-20 14:14:33

IvIoIzT
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Registered: 2007-11-21
Posts: 213

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Ourk wrote:

SkWzZ clan won't participate if it's not with the fanpatch and I guess it's the same for some others

Echoed for 2k.


Im socialy retardet?AHHHH LOOOL.You are just a rdm noob who enver can improve his skill and going to be allready fatter behind his computer.
You are max.  embarrasment  for our com. Thats the fact.
And you are to dumb to understand this.
I think you are a guy from the english underclass of your social system.

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#18 2008-12-20 16:25:04

Pedestrian
Webmaster
From: Saint Louis, MO, USA
Registered: 2007-11-10
Posts: 1603

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Yes, we are still discussing this.

Unfortunately, things aren't always as simple as many of you would like them to be.  We have to consider the viewpoints of all our members, not just the most elite players.

We will have a final decision for you all shortly.

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#19 2008-12-20 17:18:26

blade55555
Member
Registered: 2008-12-09
Posts: 33

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Well I garantee it a majority want fanpatch.  If not Idk if I want to play myself I won't say the clans out but I prob won't bother with this.  I tihnk a majority that go here will want the fan patch but your guys's choice hope its the right one smile

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#20 2008-12-20 19:10:00

Aztor
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Registered: 2007-12-31
Posts: 164

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

NSH wants fanpatch. Many of our players returned too aoe, because of fp.


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#21 2008-12-21 06:18:59

Ourk
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Registered: 2007-11-22
Posts: 192

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

The thing to keep in mind is that switching from FP to regular version costs literally nothing and is done very quickly, so I don't really see where is the problem ? Who wants to keep doing double RI + Zamburaks... ?

That's about it.

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#22 2008-12-21 08:02:46

M!rko
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Registered: 2007-12-17
Posts: 27

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

All [hope] members have the fanpatch and only play with it. So i guess we wouldn´t participate without FP..

It´s not a real problem to play with it, isn´t it ? Who does still play with 1.01a ? I don´t know any members from a clan that signed up yet. Most only want to play because of the FP ! (me included) So keep this in mind, please.

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#23 2008-12-23 14:48:45

_LearCo_
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Registered: 2008-12-23
Posts: 2

Re: RTSL and the TAD Fan Patch

Yes, no fanpatch no league

xmas

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