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#1 2018-02-07 08:07:00

nC_Snyper1
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Situation in Group 2

There are 3 teams with the same points. How will be decided which team goes for the second and which for the third place? i saw that there are only topics for arg vs cz and arg vs Eycofcu
why not cz vs Eycofcu


So what will be if arg looses to Eycofcu and wins against cz?

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#2 2018-02-07 09:23:05

Forever
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Also, shouldnt be a decider between sT B and The Jedi too?

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#3 2018-02-07 13:51:52

nC_Snyper1
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Re: Situation in Group 2

sT B won 2:0 against Jedi i believe.

In Group 2 it looks like this:

Arg vs CZ        1:1
Eycofcu vs CZ  2:0
Eycofcu vs Arg 1:1

If CZ looses against Arg, they are out, thats kinda sure. But what happens if CZ wins against Arg, and Arg wins against Eycofcu ?

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#4 2018-02-07 17:41:41

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Re: Situation in Group 2

You've already answered yourself the question from the original post and also from Forever, for the hypothetical situation of getting a nice threeway again, we would have to think of something else or just decide by random drawing, cannot obviously do deciders indefinitely smile

Threesomes always get tricky wink


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#5 2018-02-07 18:29:58

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Re: Situation in Group 2

it would be possible to take a look at all the matches in a threeway tie, like a table with only the matches played between these teams in general. In this case, we do not need any decider games for the actual constelation, which could be more fair to all the teams.

Like this:

Arg vs CZ        1:1
Eycofcu vs CZ  2:0
Eycofcu vs Arg 1:1

like 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw:

Eycofcu = 4 points
Arg = 2 points
CZ = 1 point

The decider games have 2 problems in the actual situation:

a) Arg wins vs Eycofcu and CZ wins against Arg = who advances?

b) CZ wins against Arg, Arg loses against Eycofcu means Arg is out although they have better results in the normal season

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#6 2018-02-07 19:18:02

Forever
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Thats true. I agree with Snyper, that two-deciders system have problems. As the three teams earned same result against the 1st placed (BF), seedings could be determined doing a "League" with the games played by this three teams. If we consider that in the season result between two teams like Jedi and st B decide the 3rd place, then in this case Also should be the same way i think. Because this two-decider system favours CZ . The fact Arg can be out because a lose against Ecoyfu means that with a better result (1-1) against them than CZ (0-2) they would have 50-50 chances of being out un their mutualidad game , with CZ having achieved worst result. And that doesnt seem fair i think.

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#7 2018-02-08 08:58:13

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Re: Situation in Group 2

Love threesomes.


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#8 2018-02-08 23:09:17

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Re: Situation in Group 2

Abraxas wrote:

Love threesomes.

Really? You saying this in game forums? Can you ban this guy Jan? tongue

BTW, why not the three teams to playoff? Let's add some byes or whatever!!

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#9 2018-02-09 04:59:54

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Re: Situation in Group 2

Hermes_Arg wrote:

Abraxas wrote:

Love threesomes.

Really? You saying this in game forums? Can you ban this guy Jan? tongue

BTW, why not the three teams to playoff? Let's add some byes or whatever!!

LOS TRES A LA FINAL, LOS TRES A LA FINAL ! (aplaudiendo)
111

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#10 2018-02-09 14:49:12

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Re: Situation in Group 2

Hahaha


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#11 2018-02-10 21:43:04

Forever
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Threeway again it seems 😅😅

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#12 2018-02-12 12:33:33

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Re: Situation in Group 2

So what is the case now? we have exactly the problem I have mentioned before:

Arg won vs Eycofcu
CZ won vs Arg

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#13 2018-02-12 14:06:25

Forever
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Tought we Would have playoffs brackets by now

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#14 2018-02-12 16:15:36

poxo
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Checking the brackets the next teams will advance:

RFR Straya

BF

nC RVK

VN KLRZ

NHN-A InLove

Gaucho-A ByT

That's 11 teams, 5 more could be added, likely the next ones:

Chi-C

Gaucho-B

St-A / St-B -> they got some AL and clearly missfollowed the rules. Should consider this towards advancing to the next stage.

CZ / Arg / Eycofcu

Maybe should consider just going with Chi-C Gaucho-B and the 3 teams from Group 2.

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#15 2018-02-12 17:01:21

Forever
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Buzz has same points as sT A with 2-0 in their match. So Buzz could be in playoffs too. By this rule, stA Would be out. Hope we hace all questions answered soon.

Last edited by Forever (2018-02-12 17:03:31)

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#16 2018-02-13 05:05:40

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Re: Situation in Group 2

Please remain patient, we'll let you know soon and get Playoffs going, the situation is quite difficult this time in multiple aspects as you can see and we want to make sure we consider all the options appropriately smile

Thanks though for being so interested and invested in the League, nice to see! smile


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#17 2018-02-13 14:03:50

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Re: Situation in Group 2

Damn it Group 2!!!


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#18 2018-02-13 14:14:12

Forever
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Playoffs today? Patience is desperating after 2 months without playing the competition (NHN A)

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#19 2018-02-14 05:55:13

el_Sancho
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Re: Situation in Group 2

nC_Snyper1 wrote:

sT B won 2:0 against Jedi i believe.

In Group 2 it looks like this:

Arg vs CZ        1:1
Eycofcu vs CZ  2:0
Eycofcu vs Arg 1:1

If CZ looses against Arg, they are out, thats kinda sure. But what happens if CZ wins against Arg, and Arg wins against Eycofcu ?

we want join to

klu vs arg 1:1
klu vs eycofcu 1:1
klu vs cz 0:2

jajajaja I'm kidding gl tera

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#20 2018-02-14 19:36:19

Forever
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Omg goooo playoffs

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#21 2018-02-14 20:17:18

Aramis_Arg
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Re: Situation in Group 2

el_Sancho wrote:

nC_Snyper1 wrote:

sT B won 2:0 against Jedi i believe.

In Group 2 it looks like this:

Arg vs CZ        1:1
Eycofcu vs CZ  2:0
Eycofcu vs Arg 1:1

If CZ looses against Arg, they are out, thats kinda sure. But what happens if CZ wins against Arg, and Arg wins against Eycofcu ?

we want join to

klu vs arg 1:1
klu vs eycofcu 1:1
klu vs cz 0:2

jajajaja I'm kidding gl tera

1111111 ap

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#22 2018-02-16 07:01:16

Ovenka
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Re: Situation in Group 2

Why were we playing that decider game? 11 If you lose you are out and if you win win, you are also out 111111

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#23 2018-02-16 14:47:49

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Re: Situation in Group 2

We preferred to give a chance to decide the matters on the battlefield, had Arg lost or won both games, situation would have been resolved.


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